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Which flavour of music makes you crazy?
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Amruta
2011-05-26 12:41:15 UTC
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Music is an art form whose medium is sound. Common elements of music
are pitch which governs melody and harmony, rhythm and
its associated concepts tempo, meter, and articulation, dynamics, and
the sonic qualities of timbre and texture. For many
people in many cultures music is an integral part of their life. We
can't imagin a day without music. Just want to know, what
type of music makes you go crazy.
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Thanks.
LJS
2011-05-29 13:50:01 UTC
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Post by Amruta
Music is an art form whose medium is sound. Common elements of music
are pitch which governs melody and harmony, rhythm and
its associated concepts tempo, meter, and articulation, dynamics, and
the sonic qualities of timbre and texture. For many
people in many cultures music is an integral part of their life. We
can't imagin a day without music. Just want to know, what
type of music makes you go crazy.http://www.pollpotato.com/100434_Which_flavour_of_music_makes_you_crazy?
Thanks.
Music played with poor musicianship unless it is an honest attempt to
communicate emotion or tradition or to communicate ideas.
LJS
J.B. Wood
2011-05-31 10:47:12 UTC
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Post by LJS
Post by Amruta
Music is an art form whose medium is sound. Common elements of music
are pitch which governs melody and harmony, rhythm and
its associated concepts tempo, meter, and articulation, dynamics, and
the sonic qualities of timbre and texture. For many
people in many cultures music is an integral part of their life. We
can't imagin a day without music. Just want to know, what
type of music makes you go crazy.http://www.pollpotato.com/100434_Which_flavour_of_music_makes_you_crazy?
Thanks.
Music played with poor musicianship unless it is an honest attempt to
communicate emotion or tradition or to communicate ideas.
LJS
Rap/hip-hop regardless of *what* is supposed to be conveyed. It's a
most annoying genre of music(?) IMO. Also annoying: most pop songs
these days when the singer(s), primarily female, think that all they
have to do is shout (along with excessive vibrato) their way through the
song as if a higher decibel level can disguise a lack of singing talent.
It's too bad because a lot of offerings by current tunesmiths like
Diane Warren are pretty damn good otherwise. Maybe it's time to
resurrect the the old top-40 category of "instrumentals". Sincerely,
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J. B. Wood e-mail: ***@hotmail.com
LJS
2011-05-31 20:55:02 UTC
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Post by Amruta
Music is an art form whose medium is sound. Common elements of music
are pitch which governs melody and harmony, rhythm and
its associated concepts tempo, meter, and articulation, dynamics, and
the sonic qualities of timbre and texture. For many
people in many cultures music is an integral part of their life. We
can't imagin a day without music. Just want to know, what
type of music makes you go crazy.http://www.pollpotato.com/100434_Which_flavour_of_music_makes_you_crazy?
Thanks.
Music played with poor musicianship unless it is an honest attempt to
communicate emotion or tradition or to communicate ideas.
LJS
Rap/hip-hop regardless of *what* is supposed to be conveyed.  It's a
most annoying genre of music(?) IMO.  Also annoying: most pop songs
these days when the singer(s), primarily female, think that all they
have to do is shout (along with excessive vibrato) their way through the
song as if a higher decibel level can disguise a lack of singing talent.
  It's too bad because a lot of offerings by current tunesmiths like
Diane Warren are pretty damn good otherwise.  Maybe it's time to
resurrect the the old top-40 category of "instrumentals".  Sincerely,
--
Has anyone told them that when they shout that they go sharp as well?
or that there is a difference of shouting (I hear it often as
screaming with some) and a "powerful voice". Anyone can scream.
Projecting power is something else entirely.

And vibrato is something that might be fine in moderation, but in
reality, a little bit goes a very long way. (I have not thought about
the way John Denver sounds for years until you brought it up! Curses!
lol)

LJS
J.B. Wood
2011-06-01 10:45:23 UTC
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Post by LJS
Has anyone told them that when they shout that they go sharp as well?
or that there is a difference of shouting (I hear it often as
screaming with some) and a "powerful voice". Anyone can scream.
Projecting power is something else entirely.
And vibrato is something that might be fine in moderation, but in
reality, a little bit goes a very long way. (I have not thought about
the way John Denver sounds for years until you brought it up! Curses!
lol)
LJS
Hi, LJ, and I would offer up Whitney Houston as example of a powerful
"piano e forte" voice that doesn't qualify as shouting/screaming. Maybe
also Faith Hill (although Whitney may have the greater octave range).
But then there was Ella Fitzgerald...
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J. B. Wood e-mail: ***@hotmail.com
LJS
2011-06-01 13:49:46 UTC
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Post by LJS
Has anyone told them that when they shout that they go sharp as well?
or that there is a difference of shouting (I hear it often as
screaming with some) and a "powerful voice". Anyone can scream.
Projecting power is something else entirely.
And vibrato is something that might be fine in moderation, but in
reality, a little bit goes a very long way. (I have not thought about
the way John Denver sounds for years until you brought it up! Curses!
lol)
LJS
Hi, LJ, and I would offer up Whitney Houston as example of a powerful
"piano e forte" voice that doesn't qualify as shouting/screaming.  Maybe
also Faith Hill (although Whitney may have the greater octave range).
But then there was Ella Fitzgerald...
--
Of course. There are many. I was talking about the ones that scream in
general. Since I don't care to listen to the ones that scream, I just
don't remember their names.

My biggest objective is the "just a bit too" sharp screamers that
usually sort of "almost" make the notes in a run. Ouch, it hurts just
to think of them!
I love Ella and of course Sarah Vaughn, who might have the widest
range of all, but I never heard her scream.

The "power" I am talking about is like the Operatic power. Not usually
very becoming in a "pop soprano" (if there is such a thing) but the
altos can cross over in pop/jazz and can really use that training to
add emotion and dynamics to their repertoire.
Tom K.
2011-06-01 14:55:39 UTC
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"J.B. Wood" wrote in message news:is5584$91g$***@ra.nrl.navy.mil...

Hi, LJ, and I would offer up Whitney Houston as example of a powerful
"piano e forte" voice that doesn't qualify as shouting/screaming. Maybe
also Faith Hill (although Whitney may have the greater octave range).
But then there was Ella Fitzgerald...
--
J. B. Wood e-mail: ***@hotmail.com

But Whitney did seem to usher in an error of excessive vibrato and
unnecessary, pointless melismas on virtually every note.

Do you remember Benny Hill's parody on Billy Eckstine? IIRC, The low
frequency, high amplitude vibrato began causing silverware to slide off the
table and ended up breaking load bearing supporting columns, causing the
entire room to collapse.

Tom
LJS
2011-06-01 18:33:02 UTC
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Post by J.B. Wood
Hi, LJ, and I would offer up Whitney Houston as example of a powerful
"piano e forte" voice that doesn't qualify as shouting/screaming.  Maybe
also Faith Hill (although Whitney may have the greater octave range).
But then there was Ella Fitzgerald...
--
But Whitney did seem to usher in an error of excessive vibrato and
unnecessary, pointless melismas on virtually every note.
Do you remember Benny Hill's parody on Billy Eckstine?  IIRC, The low
frequency, high amplitude vibrato began causing silverware to slide off the
table and ended up breaking load bearing supporting columns, causing the
entire room to collapse.
Tom
You brought up on of my other "no, no's", the melismas! I had
forgotten about them. You would think that the way some even poor
singers get paid that they, or their managers could either get them a
coach that could give them some musically justifiable melismas or tell
them "Yo, don't sing them if you don't have any musical creativity!"

To those that actually have creative talent, fine. But to sing them
just to be "hip" is simply holding up a sign that says, "I'm musically
illiterate! But I think you are too so listen to this useless
decoration."

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